Warwick Schiller

But today, the guest, who is also a guest in the house on a class today, on an adventure, Damian Hallam.

And there are many ways to present you, but I know you from a From a specific angle, that when I was about to give my lecture in Birmingham with severe nervousness in the Warwick Schiller podcast, what does he call it? Journey on Summit.

Journey on Summit.

Yeah.

So, you know, taking all, ideas from different fields and seeing where they've got a kind of common thread can really shake free new ways of approaching things.

So I know Warwick, for example, is always talking about, he had this sort of, yeah, Warwick Schiller.

That's how we met.

And he's always talking about he had this sort of seminal experience where he couldn't get through to this shut down animal.

But understanding how the environment was causing this.

So it just, it opened up a lot for me.

And I brought it into a very, this book, Mindful Partners, which is why I was on Warwick Schiller's podcast.

And that's why you and I met.

So like they in with that testosterone comes a lot of that kind of bitey behavior.

So what, what am I doing about it? So Warwick Schiller talks about doing this thing called engaging with the horse.

Like say they get mouthy and they reach around.

His thing is to like put, they just, they want engagement from you.