Mm-hmm.

The school was not public, and it's still, like I've never disclosed their name because it just feels like weird to dox a school.

If they want to do it, that's fine.

Um, but the school that I-- that was public that I teach a class a semester is Emerson College, so that was available.

And just seeing the amount of people, um, trying to get me fired from there, like with X, they-- I got, um, an email from the, the dean or the head of the chair saying, "Hey, our social media team has picked up a massive amount of activity, like targeting you.

You're being, you're, you're being targeted online, and we have a policy.

If we detect a faculty member being targeted, we offer to step in," blah, blah.

Yeah.

I saw this.

And so I set up a camera, had conversations, but I was asking students specifically about DEI, 'cause I've been thinking about it a lot lately.

And some of those interactions are very interesting because if you follow it logically, you come, you, they do come to the realization that, oh, we're treating people differently based on the color of their skin, not their socioeconomic status, which is completely different.

We're not saying if you come from nothing, live in a trailer, which is...

Those students I was working with in that video came from nothing.

It was a school for students that were in dire circumstances largely.

We had a variety of types, but I have worked with those students, and breaking them down by skin color, it doesn't make sense.

Right.

So apply some critical thinking to what you've been hearing from Slavoj.

Yeah.

It's a real honor to be able to talk to you, Slavoj, so I really appreciate this opportunity.

I think it's an important conversation.

I was just having this conversation yesterday, and the response I'm getting is similar to what you're describing, where the person claims, "Well, there are so many people that are accepting this new definition that just what makes Trump a fascist, well, he's trying to get Jimmy Kimmel pulled off the air.

That, that's what makes him fascist." And I said, "Well, that's not fascism." "Yeah, but if enough people claim that...

If enough people understand it as fascism, doesn't that..."... make it fascist.

Mm

Wow.

Yeah.And I was like, man, this is, I don't think you understand just the game they're playing here.

I was like, and just be careful, like you as well, because this could happen to...

And I had seen people get taken out.

The principal who hired me was there for eight years, devoted eight years, and the assistant principal who hired me taken out on the same day two years prior.

And it was nonsensical reasons.

They just will force, they have the ability, because it's not like a regular public school, they have the ability to force through outcomes however they want.

So let's talk about that because that's fascinating as well.

Can you kinda run people through that who may not be familiar with it? 'Cause it ties into this too.

Yeah.

Yeah, so I was just on YouTube one day, and I stumbled on a small streamer creator who was reacting to his debate with Destiny, and he was just...

He was talking about...

He was in the crowd watching this a few feet away.

He was talking about how he made eye contact over and over with Konstantin and how he felt like that was distracting him during the debate, and he was trying to distract him.

But he was talking about how he should have brought box cutters and started mimicking shooting and what he... talking about what he learned from the Charlie Kirk assassination and how in the future, if you're gonna take people out, like our opponents, these are his words, then you need to do it in a way that removes sympathy and removes the public platform.

Yeah.

are you still optimistic about the future of the filmmaking industry do you see AI disrupting that space a lot

I mean, it'll disrupt.

I'm very not optimistic.

I'm the opposite of optimistic when it comes to the film industry, primarily because it is structured around antiquated systems with the unions, which self-sabotage, drive up production costs, which decreases the number of productions.

Like right now is the hardest time it's ever been to make a living in the film industry if you're working camera or crew, which is a gig-to-gig economy, which is why I went to graduate school.

After doing that for a while, I realized, like, this is...

I don't want to do this my whole life.

Did you have to deal with any of that, the DEI stuff when you were

Why do you take it, and how fruitful has it been?

I think it's because it is intuitive.

It, it is something you can learn and hone, but I think it, the potential resides with all, within all of us, and it just naturally comes out if you're genuinely trying to...

If you're seeing these flaws, and you're trying to navigate them, and you're doing it in an, an honest way or objectively, it's inevitably going to happen because how else are you gonna get through? You're just going layer by layer, peeling the onion back to try- essentially, getting to the recognition that none of us know as much as we think we know.

But it's, it's not a reason not to strive for knowing.

But yeah, I think it's ingrained.

Just similar to language, the capacity is, like...

Okay.

It goes into effect January 2027.

The standard says the board and the senior leader of the organization should have a conversation on at least an annual basis to, you know, make sure that the leader is doing okay, that the leader is, uh, adhering to the, uh, moral Biblical standards, uh, that the organization, uh, says that it subscribes to, and that the, uh, organization should document that conversation in some way.

Warren Smith once again.

Franklin Graham was very explicit in a letter to the ECFA, a letter that we have a copy of, that he says that leader care is not an issue, and that he accuses, uh, the ECFA of being the moral police for evangelical organizations.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because my h- my initial response, and this is the, I think for many people, it was like, "This is not right verse left, this is good versus evil." But then it's like, "Wait a minute, but that's exactly what can...

That's a dangerous game to play because that's what can drive people to kill someone like Charlie Kirk 'cause they think they're facing genuine evil." I have friends that have kind of tossed me away because the state's...

What's a friendship when you're genuinely up against fascism and genuine evil in their minds? Which is, in their minds, what I stand for so you've got to be very careful how you diagnose that, so I've been reducing that down to its correct behavior versus incorrect behavior, really.

'Cause there's also plenty of Democrats or liberals that aren't celebrating Charlie Kirk's death and that would say, "You're ridiculous for saying these things." So it's not just Democrat, Republican.

But...

And, um, what do you think the ne- I mean, you, you don't have a crystal ball, but, uh, what do you think the next few years looks like in terms of the way that this communication goes forward? Have you got any early inclinations?

Yeah.

And then he came to the University of Austin and taught a class.

It's on YouTube.

And watching that class, to summarize it in a minute, look at it through economics, if my job is to approve or disprove loans, I've been able to get that down the best I can.

I wanna keep the default rate as low as possible, and I've achieved, like, a .5 default rate.

Out of anyone who comes in my office, .5, after I've done my job, defaults.

All right? That's pretty good.

Whoa.