Ward Heinrichs
San Diego employment attorney and founder of Employment Law Office of Ward Heinrichs; 35+ years defending California employers in wage-and-hour law and class action defense.
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Sep 23, 2026
Ward HeinrichsGUEST
You know, that's what I learned by talking to people and going to these groups where you critique each other's stuff.
Ward HeinrichsGUEST
But I do have a background, and I kinda go, "Wait a second, that one isn't quite right.
Ward HeinrichsGUEST
Let me look at the source." And so then I'll look at the source and go, "It's just not getting this subtly right." I mean, and it happens a lot.
Ward HeinrichsGUEST
And so you really gotta go to the sources, you gotta be able to recognize it.
Ward HeinrichsGUEST
It, it, obviously if you're a doctor or a lawyer, you have a little advantage over the just general population of, of knowing, "Hey, that doesn't sound quite right.
Ward HeinrichsGUEST
I really need to look further into that." And sometimes it does a great job in summarizing and getting you into, to the place you wanna go anyway.
19 MINS LATER
speaker_0HOST
So Do they just go in and say, that's it, this part's being taken out? Like, what do you mean about the guidance being withdrawn?
Ward HeinrichsGUEST
And so the guidance had been, well, If you are of a majority ethnic group or majority sex or, you know, something like that, then you aren't going to.
11 MINS LATER
speaker_0HOST
Yeah.
speaker_1HOST
And again, You know, and even in the digital space, would that be considered an independent contractor? Yeah, I
Ward HeinrichsGUEST
It's possible that certain types of salespeople could fall under an exemption of AB5.
Ward HeinrichsGUEST
So if they fall, AB5 normally says, hey, if you're selling, you're an employee.
Ward HeinrichsGUEST
So we're getting on the employee issue again because you're doing work in the usual course of the business.
Ward HeinrichsGUEST
In fact, you could even say maybe it's the most important part of the business.
speaker_1HOST
Oh,