Walter Brattain

... that's the point.

I think for me, a role model is John Bardeen, who was a theoretical physicist, uh, focused on semiconductor charge transport, and working with, uh, Brattain and, and Shockley, they invented the transistor, won the Nobel Prize, changed the world.

You know, if, if you can aspire to that level of science and technology, I think that's a model that we like to, like to think about.

So put another way, we'd like to generate knowledge for the ages, but technology for today.

But, uh, to my point where Jack is Jack, world-class talent.

Brattain, world-class talent.

He, he'll throw the body around when he needs to and create some space for himself.

Um, y- you know, you start going, uh, talking about some of the, the undersized guys.

It looks like a piece of coathanger.

Bardeen and Br- and Brattain was, was standing around with like, "Why, why, why are we here?" Or, "Why is he there?" He's-

Why is he there, right? [laughs]

Yeah.