Walter Alva

Mm-hmm.

And the word got to this archeologist, Dr. Walter Alva, who's a very close friend now after all these years.

And he went there and was able to recover many of the pieces, and started the excavations on the Sipán pyramid.

And they found several lords in the same pyramid because the way it was done here in the past, they will do a little one, and then the son will make a bigger one on top of the father's.

Mm-hmm.

Wonderful museum viewing the pieces of the Lord of Sipán, and then it can be arranged.

You can go to the beautiful house of Dr. Walter Alva and have a talk from him-

Hmm

It was a very exciting time in archaeology.

There were some brilliant new discoveries by the Peruvian archaeologist Walter Alva-

Mm

... or Eduardo Matos Moctezuma in Mexico, Leonardo López Luján.

Also, like, all my degrees actually are in history, but I started out as an archaeology major as an undergraduate as well, um, with a naive, very typical eighteen-year-old dude kind of understanding of it.

Like, oh, it'll probably be like Indiana Jones mostly, and that, that seems pretty cool.

But then I spent some time, like, in a lab, and it wasn't, it wasn't exactly what I was expecting, and I realized that, you know, I would rather be, like, in a library, like, with some books than, you know, kind of out in the field and doing digs, which I realized was actually what archaeologists did.

And I respect the heck out of that stuff-