Wallace J. Nichols

It's got to give you a lot of just...

You know, Wallace J. Nichols talked about Blue Mine and being around, you know, the water all the time.

And he gets to do that every day.

You know, he's in the field every day doing this kind of stuff in Southern California.

I had some conversations with Jim about PT.

Um, I, um, spoke with Wallace J. Nichols, who I don't know if you know, Blue Monk.

I

know the name,

What happened? And I didn't know.

But now they're looking at – I don't know if you're familiar with Wallace J. Nichols and Blue Mind.

Of course, you probably are.

But it's become being in on his basic hypothesis that he had substantiated by neuropsychologists is when you're in, on, around, by, or underwater – with scuba, I imagine, that within two minutes, it doesn't matter your age, race, gender, background, culture, just being human, the human mind, goes into a rest state within two minutes.

And blue space shows up in many different ways.

So the blue health science is how we interact with water and what impacts on us, and then blue mind is a term that was coined by my friend Wallace J. Nichols, who wrote the book Blue Mind back in 2014, and that relates to that meditative state that we experience when we're near, in, on, and underwater.

And, and his work, as my work, comes from this sense of reminding ourselves that we're part of nature, not separate to it, so there's an eco-centric perspective there.

There's that sense of how do we remind ourselves and each other that, that it's relational, our connection with water is relational and therefore symbiotic.

That's a form of orchestrated water.

Drinking plenty of domestic water, making sure that our body is hydrated, so exploring how we experience domestic water.

Going for a coffee with your friend, for example, water is the social lubricant in that moment.

Water in your coffee is providing an access for you to have deeper conversation.