W. Ian Thomas

Yeah.

If you're a worship leader, go get the book, uh, If I Perish, I Perish by, um, uh, Major Ian Thomas.

Mm-hmm.

It's a short book.

Um, what it means that we have salvation in Christ, what, what constitutes that salvation.

And you've probably heard Charlie talk about before one of his conversations with Major Ian Thomas, who was a founder of Torchbearers.

He fought in World War II.

And the Major would talk about how in war, it's a life of extremes.

So, after high school...

I went back to England for a year to go to this Bible college called Capenray Hall, which is part of Torchbearers International, founded by Major Ian Thomas.

So Major Ian Thomas was this exchanged life Christian teacher.

It's not neocarismatic, but it came out of this movement called the Keswick Convention, where these people in England had this idea that Christ didn't just come to die for the forgiveness of sins.

He came to live the Christian life through you.

I'm just saying that I never really understood that.

I had a great time at Cape and Ray Hall.

But I didn't understand what they were talking about, except still I had this idea, oh, Major Ian Thomas, another great person.

But what we're really talking about is, is Christ being formed in us.

It was Major Ian Thomas who said, the Christian life is nothing less than the life he lived in, live now, by him, in you.

That's Christianity.

And if you think about Jesus' life, so here's the two applications.

And I continued hitting the trees with a handle.

And one day, Major Thomas, Ian Thomas, the head of our mission, was preaching to the Sunday service we had in the castle, which was the center.

And I noticed something now that I did then.

Now I'm a pastor's wife.

Praying has gotten easier over the last 15 years, but I still get nervous when I give the invocation.

Major Ian Thomas said in reviewing Moses' call that when God is in a thing, the ordinary is more than adequate.

Moses may have thought the burning bush was a supernatural vision, but it wasn't.

It was just an ordinary bush.