Vorkosigan Saga
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Nov 3, 2026
Kirk HamiltonHOST
And this is Definitely Fiction.
Kirk HamiltonHOST
On this episode, we're continuing our read-through of Lois McMaster Bujold's Vorkosigan Saga with 1995's Setagamiya.
Kirk HamiltonHOST
All right, and it's time for another episode of Definitely Fiction.
Kirk HamiltonHOST
We are definitely here.
Christopher RuocchioGUEST
And, like, Hadrian meets Velka in book one, and I guess this is a spoiler, but, like, they are together for most of the series.
Christopher RuocchioGUEST
And I wanted to do that in large part because I was inspired by Lois Bujold and Miles Vorkosigan, who, like, not only has, like, a stable, loving marriage for a portion of that series, but, like, also has alive parents, right? and you know who are supportive and like present for his adult career and stuff and like man like there's not a lot of that in science fiction they're like their own families in science fiction right paul and jessica are an anomaly actually duke leto is an anomaly um in most of this stuff it's just like random people occasionally they have sex right but they're like not embedded in any sort of you know clan structure or anything right fantasy does a Right.
Christopher RuocchioGUEST
It's you know, they've got this sort of romance fantasy thing going on right now.
Christopher RuocchioGUEST
And it's it's not exactly oriented towards the formation of families and stuff.
Natasha WintersHOST
Thank you for the hug, Megan.
Natasha WintersHOST
The doctor from Vorkosigan's Hawkeye.
Natasha WintersHOST
I forgot that that was in there.
Natasha WintersHOST
Oh my God.
Natasha WintersHOST
There's a thing later where they're talking about, like, the bulbs of drinks, and I am fixated.
Natasha WintersHOST
But for now, I just want to mention that there is a point in the, uh, Bujold book from Vorkosigan Saga about the, um, quaddies, where it's emphasized more than once because of the fact that we are in, you know, we're floating, up and down are relative terms, and the people who have two legs dictate to the people who have four arms and no legs which way is up and that they should stay upright, despite the fact that their determining where, which is upright is, like, a complete fabrication based on what feels right to them at that moment.
Natasha WintersHOST
And it's always interesting to me to think about a situation where something as simple as I walk on the ground is no longer the thing.
Natasha WintersHOST
It's, uh, I...
Becca McGlynnHOST
Mm.
Jeff RichardsonGUEST
But I've thought a lot about Star Trek having stunners, or the Vorkosigan Saga, which is my favorite sci-fi series.
Jeff RichardsonGUEST
But, like-
Becca McGlynnHOST
Mm-hmm
Tara LeedermanHOST
... have to laugh.
Tara LeedermanHOST
[laughs] I read a review of Cordelia's Honor, which is an omnibus version of Lois McMaster Bujold's two f- first two books in the Vorkosigan Saga series, which were not both written first.
Tara LeedermanHOST
It's Shards of Honor which was written first in the '80s, and then Barrayar, which is chronologically after it.
Tara LeedermanHOST
And these are the two books from Cordelia's perspective in the early part of the series, and two of my favorite books.
SofiaGUEST
Ah, maybe I will think about it later, but there was something about this, like, um...
SofiaGUEST
Yeah, I guess in the Vorkosigan Saga, they, they have people making clones, and apparently, the people that are the typical customers, it's very common that they just want someone to fuck, and it's, like, says something about the kind of people who come to these establishments.
SofiaGUEST
And it's, it's kind of funny, this idea, that they're like, "Oh, yeah, it's very common." Like, this is...
SofiaGUEST
Like...
Oct 9 · 1 Mention
Melissa OlthoffGUEST
I was very, and this is a detour, but bear with me.
Melissa OlthoffGUEST
I was very late to the Vorkosigan saga.
Melissa OlthoffGUEST
I just started reading those books two years ago, maybe, and I fell in love with Ivan Vorpatril.
Melissa OlthoffGUEST
He is my favorite character.
Sam ParrishHOST
I'm Sam Parrish, and this is Definitely Fiction.
Sam ParrishHOST
[upbeat music] On this episode, we are continuing our read-through of Lois McMaster Bujold's Vorkosigan Saga with 1990's The Vor Game.
Sam ParrishHOST
[upbeat music]
Kirk HamiltonHOST
And here we are again.
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Sam ParrishHOST
In Star Wars, in Star Wars you get planets that are based on ecosystems.
Kirk HamiltonHOST
Right.
Sam ParrishHOST
In Vorkosigan Saga you get planets that are based on governments.
Sam ParrishHOST
[laughs]