VNV Nation

I, I talked last week about, uh, how they had started to, like, kind of incorporate drum machines and other electronic elements on the last album.

And it didn't, like, didn't phase me at all, but it really did on this record, and this song was a big part of that because it was like, "Oh, this is fucking sick." Um, and it did lead me to try to check out VNV Nation because I knew that Jade and Davey were both very into that band, and it was very influential on this.

And I just did not get it at the time, and I feel like I need to go back now that I've, like, learned to like electronic music a lot more.

Um, but yeah, the, the fucking second verse part in this song fucking rules.

So why are they called Goths at all? It could be because the music scene gradually evolved from industrial goth's experimental electronic cousin.

It could be that the lyrics of their preferred music genre, electronic body music or EBM, like, uh, VNV Nation, are generally too deep and depressing for other dance fans." I disagree with that.

Yeah.

"It could be because they have weird hair." I think that might be the reason.

The exercise track from Gold's set was my favorite, along with the antibody and [laughs] Clarence Zima tracks from Winter's set, and the mesh track from Paradise's set.

The anniversary story before the VNV Nation track was really cool.

By the way, Paradise, I hope your move is as painless as possible and you find all sorts of neat stuff and memories.

Have a blast, everyone, at Absolution, and the words at the end for Das Ich were beautiful." Very cool.

And then we got one from hexi- deci- decimal.

"I'm curious about two things, guys.

Is VNV Nation marked as being from Germany because they are based there? Just curious.

And have you heard about a band called Seraphie- Seraphia from Germany?" I'm not sure if they are a real band or just an AI product.

We are going to go and talk a little bit about "Kerr", the solo record, uh, from Bruno Cramm that, uh, came out way back in, uh, the early 2000s.

Um, I remember when this record came out, Bruce, and, um, it was around concurrently around the time that the VNV remix of "Destillat," which personally I think is a much worse remix than Das Ich's own club mix-

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... of that song, um, i- it came out.