Mm-hmm.

That was the seed for Voice Hugs, and that blossomed into, how do we create this safe, cozy, warm place for people to land where they can self-discover, right? Self-accept, like figure out who they are, how they wanna show up in the world, and live, I don't know, like a more connected life with yourself and with the people around you.

It starts with your relationship with yourself, and that, that was kind of like the birth of the conversations we wanted to have on Voice Hugs.

Yeah.

And so being able to identify the difference between both, one is like, okay, you're looking at external things, and these things are making you feel behind 'cause you're comparing yourself to other people's timelines or milestones.

But then the real question is what is making you feel stuck, which is such an internal feeling.

It's so emotional.

It's so mental, and I think that was the portion where for a long time I had to kind of discover, figure out, ask myself the questions, what is making me feel stuck? And then once that got answered, and it was such a long process, right? Then my life just really zoomed forward, and it's crazy, like, yeah, how fast things can change.