Victoria Nuland

People don't know that this is a think tank, though, and it's run by the Kagan family.

where Victoria Nuland is married into and you know the main financing if I'm not mistaken comes from the arms industry which has an interest to boost you know to prolong this war so you know you won't also have to put that into the propaganda perspective the fact that victoria newland the one who helped to had a key role in in setting off the coup in ukraine who then thereafter had a key role in managing the proxy war is now also a part of this Institute which her family manages that now informs the entire Western world about what's happening in Ukraine that's propaganda for you though I mean it's amazing and I just say it because every every day I get some comments on social media against all have it you're so wrong haven't you read the institute for study of war blah blah blah it's just it's so it's so ridiculous i mean if the russians did something like this we would mock them but nobody mentions it and all the information is available it's quite extraordinary though

Yeah, no, and if you do any search with AI engines, again, their algorithm is plugged in to take like ISW stuff as gossip.

Oh, it must be true because ISW said it.

But who it surrounded themselves with.

You know, in the sense of Blinken and Sullivan and others, you know, Victoria Nuland.

Right.

I mean, like these people position the United States against Russia in this war in Ukraine in a way that I don't think Obama would ever have got that far.

Russia wins its special military operation.

maybe one day and probably not but maybe one day we'll know the true reason i think we all have our ideas about the true reason right but maybe one day we actually figure out what this war was actually about it's very hard to believe for me given the history of the euromaidan even going back to the orange revolution in 2008 it's very difficult for me to look at this and say that russia was acting as an aggressor in this when the united states and other western democracies quote unquote democracies have been infiltrating ukraine for over two decades almost two decades now you know in putting in a you know western puppets to to run that country the maidan revolution victoria nuland right when we've been doing that for so long when in reality russia is the country that should have the closest relationship with ukraine because they're on their border know we can expand this to nato putting nato uh allies now on their border there's like what five of them now i believe there's four of them i can't think of them it's uh what is it lithuania is it slovenia i can't i can't remember the the ones specifically off the top of my head but we have several uh nato nato countries that are on the border of russia ukraine of course wanting to become the next one meanwhile the whole time You know, if you go back to the Maidan, one of the key components of the Maidan was this trade deal where the EU was seeking free trade with Ukraine, which therefore would have been a pass through because Ukraine had a trade negotiation deal with Russia.

so the eu could have then you know essentially laundered its goods and commodities into ukraine and then gotten access to the russian market without sanctions that russia had imply imposed on eu nations in return from the same sanctions that the eu has uh uh imposed on russia the whole thing is a crap is a crap shoot over there and and all of it in my opinion in my opinion western democracy the eu the nato's of the you know the nato's and the the newlands of the world they're the ones that have been you know pushing this this whole time so i think i still think russia comes from a position of strength in uh in this debacle here and the fact that the german uh you know germany's foreign minister is now engaging directly with lavrov at the un general assembly or the un you know uh yeah general assembly meeting that they had I think that was still the one in New York over the weekend right and uh the fact that they're engaging with with Russia now is a promising uh step in the in the escalation of that so keep our eyes on again going back to what le pen was saying on friday the rhetoric about the eu being at war with russia meanwhile russia's like yeah we're not at war with you guys we're not trying to go to war with you but you know if you do if you do supply weapons it might be you know like remember the lusitania type stuff all over again lusitania was supplying weapons to germany or excuse me to britain in the world in world war one so All right, let's jump into this story.

One more.

Diplomacy is tough.

Diplomacy means sitting in a room, going through the hard, detailed negotiations about, frankly, a massive list of issues, a bit like what happened actually in Gomul and in Istanbul at the start of the war, right? In the famous deal that was then scuppered by Boris Johnson and Victoria Nuland.

Diplomacy requires hard work.

It's not Zelensky meeting Trump for 40 minutes in New York yesterday.

I'm talking about Ukraine now, who Uh, of course, always wanted regime change and had decided on regime change, uh, well in advance.

The famous, uh, tape, the famous conversation between Victoria Nuland and, and Gregory and, and the, the American Ambassador Pyatt.

But, um, in the, um, uh, in the, in the case of Bosnia, uh, so in the case of Bosnia, there was an agreement, again, brokered by Europeans, sabotaged by Americans, which would have, uh, kept Bosnia in Yugoslavia.

Uh, and, uh, as it happens, uh, I understand that, uh, as Izetbegovic, the Bosnian Muslim leader, would've become federal president of Yugoslavia according to an informal agreement.

And the people doing the provoking were not Russian, they were American.

They were Hillary Clinton, They were Victoria Nuland.

They were Jake Sullivan and they were Joe Biden.

And that's where this all started in 2014.

But the Russian tactic is just to throw people into the mix-

Oh, the Russian tactic when they were surrounded by NATO, and NATO admits they started the fight, and Victoria Nuland testified to Congress they lured Russia into the fight.

All right, we're gonna go to break.

We're gonna come back.