Do you separate

yourself or...

Yes, I do.

It's funny that you should say that because, Paul, because I...

That's exactly what it is.

When we first played the games, because for Paul and I, the first time we played it was just a few years ago.

And the first time I played it was with Paul on Conversations with Curtis.

But then, and I had seen... you know, I had had like, I took some footage to make, to be part of my reel when I went to LA, so I'd seen a bunch of the footage before I ever played the game, but, so I thought that I knew it, but then when I played it, you end up really getting sucked into the mood and the feeling, and it ends up sort of, yeah, it just ends up being much more involving than you expect it to be, yeah.