Victor Dominello

Yeah.

All right? And I saw a thing today from, uh, you know, our good friend Victor Dominello on LinkedIn-

Yeah

... talking about whatever it was, Government 4.0, or whatever he's calling it, you know, and the impact of AI on that.

These are leaders who come from all walks of life, and I'll use a couple of different ones quickly just to illustrate the point.

I remember sitting across the table from, uh, the former minister, the Honorable Victor Dominello, some time ago and chatting on the podcast.

Now, when you think of best practice examples, and particularly in the public sector or government, you think of people like Victor Dominello.

I want you to just hold that example there, reference some other leaders, and we'll connect the dots for all of them.

Someone I spoke with recently on the podcast, Alison Rossiter, she's a, um, life sciences healthcare executive, and she's been all around the globe.

... what do they, what do these good leaders have in common? He would say that he's terrible at social media, and he would say that he's the exception to the rule when it comes to the billions of others who use it very effectively.

What's in- if I just talk about these three people, what is interesting about them and what they do all have in common, they are themselves.

Victor Dominello talked about not wearing a mask.

I'm your host, Brian Chidester, and today you guys are in for a treat.

We have with us the Honorable Victor Dominello.

He is the former New South Wales Minister for Customer Service and Digital Government, uh, but currently the CEO and co-founder of the Future Government Institute, which I recently became a part of and really looking forward to kinda diving in on all the things he's seeing in digital government.

So Victor, thanks so much for being here, buddy.

So joined the Future Government Institute.

Um, for those that, uh, kinda work in the global government space, um, you'll recognize the name Victor Dominello, who created the Future Government Institute with the idea that he sort of built this framework to help usher in, um, different levels of maturity around digital government and kind of build that maturity model with, uh, with steps to, to matriculate forward around that.

So, um, really excited to be part of that.

It's something I'm doing not just, uh, personally, but also with Adobe too, and, um, it's been enlightening to see where, uh, w- where governments have gone, where they will be going, and where...