Vanessa Zoltan

She's like, please don't do that.

Vanessa doesn't want to.

And she doesn't even want to say no.

And so I get not invited to a lot of things.

Can you tell them no for me?

I do always offer to be the excuse.

You can say, I'm so sorry, my friend Vanessa is crying on the other line.

I've gotta go.

And this time Anne says no.

I'm Vanessa Zoltan.

I'm Stephanie Paulsell.

And this is Hot and Bothered.

You're really doing them a favor.

We are a Not Sorry production.

Our executive producers are me, Vanessa Zoltan and Ariana Nettleman.

We are produced and edited by Ariana Nettleman and we're distributed by ACAST.

Yes, I sure am.

Vanessa and I are having a great time over there.

Okay, so

before I sort of go off into my questions, I'm curious, what's the question that you've brought for us?

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Neither of them seem to like or trust her.

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We are

Discovering the work of today's guest had so much to do with my reconnection to our sacred texts.

Vanessa Zoltan earned her master's degree at Harvard Divinity School, where she now teaches courses on chaplaincy.

She's the author of Praying with Jane Eyre, and together with Caspar Turkyle, who joined us at Restore this year, she co-created the wildly popular podcast Harry Potter and the Sacred Text.

Vanessa approaches spirituality from a secular Jewish perspective, and her warm, witty, down-to-earth nature has drawn millions of listeners to Lectio Divina, the ancient practice of sacred reading.

For me, this became a source of wisdom and connection while my faith flickered, and eventually it became my way back into Scripture.

I can't wait for you to hear this conversation.

Now here's Vanessa Zoltan.

Vanessa, I'm so happy to have you here.

Maybe it's not going to be a prison sentence after all.

I'm Vanessa Zoltan.

And I'm Stephanie Paulsell.

And this is Hot and Bothered.

As a reminder, please leave us a review wherever you listen.

We are a Not Sorry production.

Our executive producers are me, Vanessa Zoltan, and Ariana Nettleman.

We are produced and edited by Ariana Nettleman and distributed by ACAST.

We are a not sorry production.

Our co-executive producers are Vanessa Zoltan and Ariana Nettleman.

We are edited and produced by AJ Yaramis.

Music is by Nick Boll and we are distributed by ACAST.

Mm

... we're gonna talk about what we did last week when we both saw some beautiful leaves in gorgeous places and spent some time with family and friends.

Before we start, we are recording early Monday afternoon, and are aware that federal agents have executed a search warrant at Representative Ilhan Omar's home this morning.

She is a Democratic congresswoman from Minnesota, who was born in Somalia, and was admitted to the US as a refugee in the mid-1990s.