Value engineering

What I want out of this is the builder's read.

What a number that early is actually good for, what it is not, and how much value engineering comes off the table before anybody schedules the meeting.

Let's get into it.

Andy, welcome to the show.

So you're not updating the sheets as well.

I think...

We often look at those things and we forget like, what are the additional opportunities that a tool like this can present? And when we think about all the things we hate in architecture, I think we often think about the value engineering process, the VE process, right? Which all of us had to go through on more projects than we'd like to probably admit.

like you did up front with the movie, the wall thing.