Urban legend

Jack how did you come across this film from the front I knew as soon as I said the word

come across it was going to be brutal how did I I think someone might have mentioned it like from my old work perhaps or something and then I seen it was like free on Prime I like the concept of it there's like I think the trailer kind of is a bit of a it ruins this in a way it basically sets us up to be just one tiny little section of the film which is the whole urban myth oh you know seeing Candyman five times there's a little bit of section of that and But I like that kind of thing anyway.

So I thought, oh, that's Mac and a cup of tea.

And then I watched it and I was like, oh, my God, this is what's happening.

out of the window, just goes, don't give a fuck, we're going to ruin this film for you.

I actually think it'd be more interesting if this turned out to be not supernatural and it was actually the organisation, the institute that was doing it all, rather than it genuinely being a real empty man thing.

And I think it would be better, my hot take is, I think it would be totally better if you removed that element from it and it turned out it was Institute doing it and they were just playing tricks on people and leaning into this like urban myth thing.

I think that'd be a much more interesting story.

Her fascination with ghost stories and history has significantly influenced her writing.

This passion led her to start the paranormal podcast, Paragool Paranormal, which focuses on the paranormal, urban legends and the dark history of Western Canada.

You can find her on social media platforms at Katie Culpa and on our website at katieculpa.com. And we'll put all that in the show notes and we'll remind you later when we ask the same question.

So welcome, Keely.

Yeah, well, the first two started actually as a radio show, a weekly radio show here in the local community radio.

And so, yeah, the first season and a half, I would say, was Each week, it was kind of a little bit different.

So it might be an interview with a horror or paranormal person, so horror author or paranormal expert, or it would be a local Saskatchewan ghost or haunting, as well as I did urban legends, talked about Canadian urban legends specifically, or even Canadian paranormal stories.

So some of the more historical paranormal stories that we have here in Canada.

I want to talk about like what that means and like where there's like white saviorism, which also occurs somewhat in the film.

But I want to talk about urban legends, real news items and art and how they mix together because this film is an excellent example of it.

I'm going to want to talk about sexuality because Tony Todd is one of the few like horror villains who is kind of sexy in an odd sort of way.

Now, Tony Todd, he's since passed away.

It's a little tough, but we meet Helen Lyle, played by Virginia Madsen.

She is a graduate student and she and her best friend, Bernadette Walsh, who is played by Casey Lemons.

Casey Lemons is a Black woman, are working together on a thesis on urban legends.

Helen is married to a man named Trevor who does not seem to respect her.

Now, we're going to talk about that today with Dr. Doug Groothuis.

He's written a brand new book called Urban Legends of Apologetics, 40 Common Misconceptions.

I'm looking forward to this, Doug.

Thanks for being here.

So Was there one particular misconception that kind of triggered you when you were kind of decided to write this book?

Well, not really.

There was the awareness that there was this series called Urban Legends that B&H Academic put out, and they had urban legends of theology, urban legends of the Old Testament.

And I looked down the list, and I didn't see urban legends of apologetics.

Huh?

Urban Legends was...

No, that was like three episodes.

I know, and that was just like generic Urban Legends.

This was just a birth-related Urban Legend that I wanted to throw out there because it wasn't lore from anywhere else.

Wrong episode.

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Today on The Grave Talks, we continue our conversation about urban legends, ghost stories, and folklore, a new book by Micah Campbell.

We've all heard those stories that seem to be passed down.

Maybe it's a vanishing hitchhiker, a ghost everyone knows that haunts a cemetery nearby.

Maybe it's something more nefarious, like a monster that people have reportedly seen in a nearby forest or swamp.

We've all shared those stories, but do we really know the truth? Do we really know what goes bump in the night? Do we really want to? What is the truth behind those spooky legends? I'm Carol Hughes, and on this episode of The Grave Talks, we'll continue our conversation about urban legends, ghost stories, and folklore, a new book from author

Micah Campbell.

Now, Micah, what is one of the stories that you particularly felt drawn to or one that really moved you as you were researching the book?