University of Minnesota Law School

Welcome back to Rationally Based, a podcast about law and politics on the edge.

I'm your host, Ilan Wurman, a law professor at the University of Minnesota Law School.

I'm Kathryn Johnson with Center of the American Experiment.

And I'm Joshua Kleinfeld, Rouse Professor of Law at Scalia Law School.

We met, had coffee 'cause Pat was thinking of going on the teaching market.

I was a young law professor at University of Minnesota Law School, and we were trying to get Pat an interview at University of Minnesota Law School, but we decided that they just couldn't stomach two conservatives on the same faculty.

He went on the teaching market generally and landed at Notre Dame Law School, where he taught Civil procedure, federal courts

No evidence.

I'm glad I testified for it, and I wanna see more done.

Ron, I think, should tell you that he's opposed to the University of Minnesota Law School's Gun Violence Prevention Task Force.

He said he would not continue that program.

I'm proud of that program, and, uh, I'm trying to find more ways to protect people from gun violence.

Yeah, exactly.

Because if they come up through the Hamlin and the University of Minnesota Law School-

Yeah

... they're not gonna change anything 'cause everybody they'd have to prosecute, they graduated school with.

Now, I did a little research on Allen Rosenstein.

He recently went on a leave of absence as he was the associate professor at the University of Minnesota Law School.

He went to work for Anthropic in August 2026, where apparently he will build directly on his scholarship at Minnesota Law, where he has studied the intersection of technology, constitutional law, national security, and government power.

Rosenstein's work has examined how legal institutions should respond as technology changes the way government and private companies exercise power.

Welcome back to Rationally Based, a podcast about law and politics on the edge.

I'm your host, Elon Wurman, a law professor at the University of Minnesota Law School.

I'm Katherine Johnson with Center of the American Experiment.

And I'm Josh Kleinfeld, Rouse Professor of Law at Scalia Law School.

Welcome back to Rationally Based, a podcast about law and politics on the edge.

I'm your host, Elon Worman, a law professor at the University of Minnesota Law School.

I'm Katherine Johnson with Center of the American Experiment.

And I'm Joshua Kleinfeld, Rouse Professor of Law at the Scalia Law School.

Alabama, Colorado, which is Campos, Campos' own school, by the way, and credit to him for putting it in there.

You've also got Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Minnesota, North Carolina, Ohio State, Utah, Wisconsin.

As a group, they're down an average of fifty-nine percent, and every single one now collects under two hundred thousand dollars per professor.

Also rated severe, Texas down forty-three point nine percent, UCLA down twenty-four point five percent, plus you've got BYU, Temple, Villanova, and WashU in St. Louis.