Umar ibn Sa'd

And I can tell by looking at him and the face that he's coming with.

And Umar came up to him, Umar ibn Sa'd, and he said, you know, people in Medina are now basically drawing lots and their positions of leadership being the signs in the wake of Uthman radiallahu ta'ala anhu being killed.

Aren't you going to get in there? Like you're Sa'd ibn Abi Waqas, you're one of the six, the shura of Umar, right? You're eligible for any position in society.

There's no ceiling.