Ulric Neisser

It has an intensity that these simulations are trying to recreate, but they do fall short.

And so going back to Neisser, the famous psychologist, Neisser is the father of cognitive psychology.

And when he defined thinking, and this for me was super exciting stuff, because when I got to grad school, I thought, this is going to be so much fun, because I want to understand what thoughts are.

I want to know what understanding is.

We are so cut from the same cloth, my friend.

That is why I left academia after my PhD because all the fun questions, like no one was playing with those.

No, but it was strange because there's kind of a paradox because in a way it was mainstream because Neisser was very, very famous and created an entire discipline of cognitive psychology.

But I think no one wanted to really get into it and it slipped under the conversations and no one was talking about it.