Ujamaa

I wanted to ask you about one of these international connections, which is to, uh, what was happening in Tanzania to Julius Nyerere.

Can you tell us about that and about your connection to it, about Ujamaa and the Tanzanian revolution?

Well, we met a family, an English family, who had been in Tanzania, and he had written, it was...

He had written a book, a, a, a report about his life in, in the, in this, in this, um, fantastic, um, a d- a very different way of doing things.