Twelve Tribes communities

And so getting to be with the parent who has left is a whole different kind of mental hardship on them and on the parent, them trying to figure out how to live and cooperate with who they consider an apostate, this horrible, evil person.

In the Twelve Tribes, Tony was talking about the fact that when his boys first got to him, it was really tough and that they're still working on finding because they're all trying to figure out how to survive on the outside.

They're all trying to have a new way of thinking.

They're trying to overcome the abuses that they handled, being split still away from their mom and their siblings, but then they're here with their dad, but then they thought that their dad was this awful person for leaving them.

And we are back to talk more about the 12 Tribes Cold documentary.

Yes, if you haven't seen our part one, talking about the similarities between the Twelve Tribes group and Mormonism in general, mainstream, fundamental, we talked about a lot of those same Christian theological things, like even some really more... what's right word not off the wall but some more hidden or extreme or less talked about things um this episode we'll just do like a trigger warning right now this episode we wanted to focus and talk about the abuses which is was super hard to watch in the documentary super hard to talk about um the abuses of the children specifically and then also about the raids that happened with the government coming in and trying to protect kids from the abuses, which is similar to what happened in the FLDS.

So many raids have happened on these extreme fundamentalist groups, not only in the United States of America, but also in foreign countries as well.

So very interesting and a lot of comparisons to be discussed there as well.

Yes, we do.

And we are here with a review of People Magazine's documentary about the Twelve Tribes cult.

Yes, this documentary really dives deep, I feel like, for only being an hour and a half.

There are some that we feel like it's just scraping the surface.

Well, that was a long time ago in the 1800s.

Things were a little harsher back then.

But here in 1968, which is just barely before the time of the Twelve Tribes, in General Conference, it was said by Elder S. Dilworth Young, he said, we had done our duty by shaking off the dust of our feet against him.

So it was definitely something that LDS missionaries...

As I've said previously on this show, we as human beings are wired to look for connection and community.

That very natural human need is what led today's guest, Tamara Matthew, into the Twelve Tribes.

Fourteen years later, Tamara and her husband realized they needed to leave what had become a controlling, high-demand situation.

one that Tamara would end up writing a book about and telling the truth about her experience.

Yes, we do.

And we are back once again for another reaction, a highly recommended reaction to a cult called the Twelve Tribes.

Yeah, today we're going to react to the trailer of it.

There's so much information, so many things that are so blatantly similar to the FLDS already.