Turkana people

And what people also...

Okay, now this is another thing that is difficult to explain because The level of civic awareness that you have or the level of civic awareness that you have is different from the level of civic awareness that somebody else in Turkana has, somebody else in Omabe has.

So you might think that everybody thinks like you.

On the contrary, the biggest percentage of people don't think like you.

We give them the tough questions.

So why do you want us to elect you? What have you been doing? So what are your manifestos? What are your agendas? And what have you been doing in the two dark years that Kenyans have had? Where were you during the finance bill that led to 60 people dying? So let us have this discussion.

So once we settle on Eli as our presidential bearer, now let's make it a trend that I'm in Turkana.

You find me campaigning for Eli and Eli is in Nairobi.

Um, let me give you another example.

A young girl in Turkana with no in- with no SRHR information because of challenges with education, because of piecemeal information, because of SRHR myths.

There is no one to give her the right information, so she will end up making certain decisions that are not informed.

Yeah.

So that is why I always say it's important, it's important, one, to not make assumptions about people's SRHR.

Yeah.

And even when you're coming up with, you're coming up with policies, it's important to consider lived experiences because me sitting in Nairobi and imagining that this is... that what is happening in Turkana is the same thing that is h- just because a road has, just because a road has been built does not automatically translate to better SRHR- Yeah ... because there are other determinants that might influence how that person experiences SRHR.

So even as we plan, we need to- We need to plan with people in mind and, and, and not plan with them as beneficiaries, but plan with them as people who can actually inform decisions and people who actually know what they want.