Tucker Max

Oh, yeah.

You're telling me that the guy with the big furry hat and the massive sideburns mystery out of Neil Strauss's The Game, even he could get laid with his stupid hair and his flares, and oh, and now the Real Social Dynamics, Tyler and Max and everybody else, they've come along, and they're not, not all of them were exactly, you know, the pinnacles of giga chad masculinity, and it worked for them and it hasn't worked for me.

Therefore, I should find distaste with this.

Yeah, I, um, I can completely see why that would cause people to cascade down from hope to, uh, increasing gradations of hopelessness.

One of the problems or one of the things that I see online, especially when it comes to trying to encourage guys to get into a long-term committed relationship, especially one that encourages marriage, is that they would say, "Why would I get into a relationship? Like, a woman's just gonna take all of my money and do this thing in any case." It's like, okay, did that happen to you? Or did you read one story or a small number of stories online that told you that this is something that's super, super common? Because, dude, even the heads of the red pill movement, like even the most red pilly of red pill guys get into fucking long-term marriage relationships.

Like Neil Strauss, the guy that wrote The Game, is now this completely renewed...

Uh, Tucker Max, the guy that invented the entire genre of fratire, lives 30 miles away from me at a ranch in fucking Dripping Springs, surrounded by...

He's made a, a Waldorf school for his kids, and him and his wife have got four, and he spends his days practicing shooting guns and corralling and stuff.

Perception matters.

I have a friend, Tucker Max, who is not a licensed attorney.

He went to law school.

He's had a lot of businesses.

Men are the gatekeepers of relationships.

That was in Mating Mind, which we were talking about before the podcast, the Jeffrey Miller and Tucker Max book.

And that is not a problem that men tend to have, the attractive men who can get options on dating apps, let's say.

Another way to think about it is, this is, again, a generalization, but if a woman will sleep with a guy, it's pretty likely that she would also commit to him, assuming no glaring red flags come up over time.

And he continues to provide feedback?

Yeah, he continues to support, yeah.

gotcha gotcha cool that's awesome yeah and for people who don't know if you've uh gotten this far in the convo uh i had jeffrey on the podcast earlier this year and we had a really good conversation on dating and mating and practical tips and pointers for young men to follow so people can check out that conversation i've really enjoyed uh watching his content over the years and he's a great book what women want with tucker max uh which is really good you mentioned by the way the mating mind is that another book with tucker

No, not with Tucker.

It's me-

Tucker Max.

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Yeah.

Right.

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Tucker Max, sure.

Yeah.

And I go, cool, man.

And then he goes, I was reading Tucker Max's I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell.

And I was like, okay.

And then it was like, Neil Strauss's The Game was all over.

13, fuck.

12 years dude that's insane that's if you're a guy who wants to improve I would say mate be the guy women want Jeffrey Miller and Tucker Max and models by you the two they were the two fucking the two car garage

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man

I paid the money, and maybe I didn't get the results that I wanted, and boom, they're going in.

You can see how that would be a black pill, right? You're telling me that the guy with the big furry hat and the massive sideburns mystery out of Neil Strauss' The Game, even he could get laid with his stupid hair and his flares, and oh, and now the real social dynamics, Tyler and Max and everybody else, they've come along, and they're not...

Not all of them were exactly the pinnacles of GigaChad masculinity, and it worked for them, and it hasn't worked for me.

Therefore, I should find distaste with this.

Like Neil Stroud, the guy that wrote the game.

is now this completely renewed...

Tucker Max, the guy that invented the entire genre of fratire, lives 30 miles away from me at a ranch in fucking Dripping Springs, surrounded by...

He's made a Waldorf school for his kids and him and his wife have got four and he spends his days practicing shooting guns and corralling.

or in this case, when rushing just to keep up with the current news.

So to promote Tucker Max's movie, I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell, Holliday personally defaced billboards for the movie, snapped photos of the vandalism, and then sent them anonymously to blogs to spark outrage over the film's controversial themes.

So he essentially... messed it up himself, then went back and created a blog about it saying, isn't it so screwed up that somebody went over and spray painted on these guys' billboards? And at the time, it was like this controversy over the LGBT community.

So it was even better, right? On top of that, he paid actors to protest outside of screenings, generating mainstream news coverage about boycotts, which drove curiosity in ticket sales.