Is that right?

Yeah, I would say that it wasn't, you know, I was always good in math, so I guess that's what drove me into engineering.

But then I, you know, I worked there for a while, and then I started having children.

My husband and I have been married for 41 years, and we have three children.

And once I started having children, I... felt like I needed a job that was, you know, maybe not as intense and giving myself some more time with the children and everything.

So what ended up happening was Sipikan was having a layoff or a voluntary layoff.

And so I took the voluntary layoff and I talked my husband into moving to Thailand where he's originally from.

So tell me about the dot painting.