Trimix

And of course then Quest was all nice and glossy, and you could get a PDF version of it, and it was, it, it, it's been slicked up quite a bit.

But as I mentioned, you know, in tho- those days, the first dive we did on the Ganelda was 1997, and we were one year out of Trimix.

We took, we took our Trimix course from two instructors, Jared Jablonski and Larry Green.

And we, when we took that course we said, "Hey, we wanna go dive the Ganelda, so teach us well enough so we won't die up on Lake Superior." And evidently they, they taught us well enough-

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There's always a silver lining.

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Terry, you mentioned that you, uh, d- did that Trimix training with Jared Jablonski and Larry Green.

Once we have that data and know it's safe, well, then now Nitrox is a recreational divers gas.

We now use a lot of Trimix.

We still use nitrox for decompression, but we now use Trimix.

And there's experiments going on diving with hydrogen.

And all of these, every recreational diver said, oh my word, I'd never dive with that.

But given a few years, I think you'll see some recreational Trimix classes, depending on the price of helium.

it all sort of moves in that direction technical divers were the first people with DPVs DPVs were like this huge monstrous thing with 30 car batteries in it that weighed 200 kilos and you know dragged a ton of equipment into a cave now To bomb around on a little tiny flight-safe lithium scooter that lasts two hours and cover the whole reef in the Maldives or fight against the currents to see Manta, that's now a recreational activity.

So a lot of the things that we do, I'm seeing now in a lot of recreational programs, divers are teaching their divers to do modified kicks.