Trey Anastasio

I, I'm, I'm so excited.

We, we talk about Weezer and Trey Anastasio.

We talk about Visvim.

We talk about John Mayer.

Yeah.

I found him to be, uh, very thoughtful on this topic.

There needs to be, like, a Trey Anastasio, Noah thing-

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I mean, it's not about david bowie or like ub40 at all but that's the lyrics of those songs that's just kind of the fish way they would find words and phrases to put together that sometimes make sense and sometimes don't make any sense at all but that's half the fun of checking them out you might get some bullshit but you might find some truth in the bullshit too depending on how you think about it or how you look at it so Yeah, this was a nod to David Bowie and I guess UB40.

David Bowie is a huge inspiration to Trey.

Bowie was always changing his looks and his music styling and everything.

Every five years, he was doing something different.

It just wasn't there there that night.

And the night before, they did a harpooha into I Kissed a Girl by Katy Perry, which fishman singing it and it was fucking awesome and they did like psycho killer which is like the only time they've played that they might have only played it one other time since they've come back in 09 the night before they just did all kinds of cool shit you know it's And our night was just the most fish by the number Saturday night.

They played Time Turns Elastic, which Trey was so excited about the song and thought he had this cool, epic, multi-part song that fans were going to love.

And it took up a lot of the setlist time.

I think his lighting setups are just genius, and I absolutely love watching his work.

And another person who I would add to that category, um, former guest of the show and, uh, lighting guy for Trey Anastasio and My Morning Jacket, uh, Mark Janowitz.

Cool.

Yeah.

To be clear, I respect Santana's guitar playing immensely, but I've always been super bugged that he doesn't sing.

I mean, Trey Anastasio doesn't have a great singing voice, but you don't see him outsourcing his vocals.

Anyway, I was not looking forward to re-listening to this album, and I kind of put it off for like a week or so during this project.

I finally ripped the band-aid off and listened to it for the first time since 2010, and I gotta say, it's kind of bad, honestly.

Crazy.

No, there aren't that many Daniel Anastasios, but there is a Trey, famous musician, Trey Anastasio from Fish.

And everyone's asking me if, you know, oh, are you related? No, I'm not related to Trey Anastasio, but I wish I was because the dude is super talented.

I totally relate to that because people are always like, wow, are you related to the Hagen String Quartet? Actually, that's two

people.

Yeah.

Did you ever resent the band or Trey, Anastasio in particularly?

I resented them for making that music.

This is fish month on Dopey, too, so this fits in really well.

A hundred percent.

You know what I mean? And I'm not,

I'm trying to get Trey to come on the show.

I'm not trying to demonize fish.

My guest today is Greg Giorgio.

a producer, engineer, and mixer known for his work with artists including Delta Ray, The National, Death Cab for Cutie, and Trey Anastasio, to name just a few.

For more than 25 years, Greg has built a reputation for his meticulous approach to recording, mixing, and mastering, with nearly two decades working with producer Peter Kadis at Tarquin Studios.

Today, he brings that depth of experience to Nine Point Studios, where he helps artists and producers craft their sound by balancing creativity with technical excellence.

In the spring 1985, Kyler Trips Festival was soundtracked by a boarding school classmate of one of the organizers, whose new band was in their brief period of very adeptly playing Dead covers.

Trey Anastasio of Phish.

My buddy, Bill Huber, who had gone to Taft with Trey, got Trey and an, a person Trey was with, who I c- have never figured out if it was Fishman or not, but, like, another long-haired guy, to play the music at that Trips Festival.

And a, a bunch of bill the cat acid was partaken of, and two long-haired guys we didn't know played, like, 200 Grateful Dead songs over the course of, like, five hours on miniature guitars, uh, that, in a, in a two-guitar arrangement that, and vocal arrangement that they had for all those songs.

And so I assume this was, like, prep for that or part of that deal.

All of that tracks, though I don't think it would've been Jon Fishman playing the second guitar.

We spoke with Trey Anastasio during our Playing Dead episodes about the importance of Dead music to him, but also the importance of putting Dead covers aside in order for Phish to find their own collective voice.

It was a good time to be a band playing Dead music in the Northeast, with an incredible untapped demand.