What was the process of putting together Australian Luster? Like, w- was it a multi-year endeavor, or did you kind of figure it out pretty quickly what you wanted to lay out and then, and then get the ball rolling?

Yeah.

Um, so I mean, I'd, I'd been just taking these types of pictures for about, oh, probably 10 years or so, just chipping away at it.

So it all goes back to m- myself having a ACL knee reconstruction.

Um, I was on the couch and then couldn't go in the water 'cause, you know, it's a pretty hard injury to recover from, um, in terms of mobility, and I was pretty landlocked.

So I started looking at Magnum photographers and photojournalism.

Um, and off the back of that I kind of got fired up to do street photography.

Mm-hmm.