Tree climbing

We'll talk more about it in the interview about how the mechanisms of how you do it, but we had a great guide who was very helpful, very encouraging.

And tree climbing is physically challenging, and it can be a little bit scary when you're getting way high off the ground like that, [lips smack] but he was very encouraging.

She had a blast.

She got all the way to the, the top of a 250-foot tree, and, you know, we ate lunch on the top branches, and it was just a fun, you know, kind of daddy-daughter bonding experience.

A couple other notes that Leo sent about things that have changed since this initial interview that you're gonna hear.

They've got a lot of attention recently for bringing wheelchair users up into the trees using their harnesses and a battery-powered ascender that he talks about in this interview that makes it easier for people to climb.

We did it kind of the old-fashioned way, you know, pulling ourselves up, but there's also a battery-powered one, kind of like an e-bike for tree climbing.

Uh, but anyway, there was a story about it in The New York Times worth checking out.