Travis Walton

I-- we talked about Philadelphia Experiment.

Fire in the Sky was the Travis Walton case where he was abducted and he-- our grandfather said everything was basically a true, true to the best of account, like as a documentary.

You know, he was saying that really happened.

I, uh, he, he said, we are basically im- we have the technology of Star Wars and Star Trek.

What is currently happening right now that I've been seeing on my feed on social media is allegedly all of a sudden now two different two different big narratives are being debunked.

The Travis Walton incident is now currently trending that it has been debunked.

And then the famous Patterson Gimlin incident.

Sasquatch footage has also been, quote, debunked now.

Let's look at the abductions.

The Betty and Barney Hill case in 1961, the Pascagoula abduction, Travis Walton.

If you line these up, they aren't just random spooky stories.

No.

Rich says most of you know about the notorious CIA program MKUltra that in 1959 experimented with LSD on military personnel and volunteers.

And he adds, I've always thought and written that the Pascagoula encounter, Hickson Parker and Travis Walton's abduction, may have been drug-induced.

Having known Rich for more than a few years, I should note that he has a deep interest in the possibility that at least some significant UFO incidents may have had a hallucinogen of some kind at their core.

We're not, however, talking here about using LSD for recreational purposes.

what is currently happening right now that I've been seeing on my feed on social media is allegedly all of a sudden now two different, two different big narratives are being debunked.

The Travis Walton incident is now currently trending that it has been debunked.

And then the famous Patterson Gimlin incident, Sasquatch footage has also been, quote, debunked now.

But all of a sudden, just now in the same year, the same time to the two most famous incidents in each field has been officially now debunked.

What is currently happening right now that I've been seeing on my feed on social media is, uh, allegedly all of a sudden now two different, two different big narratives are being debunked.

The Travis Walton, uh, incident is now currently trending that it has been debunked, and then the famous Patterson-Gimlin, uh, Sasquatch footage has-

Right

... also been, quote, debunked now.

right

yeah i can say that of a lot of uh in the in the UFO culture, things I've heard Travis Walton speak and you know saw him at a conference and listened to him speak he believes what he says he believes that that's what's happened either that or he's the greatest actor that we've ever seen or the most accomplished liar ever and there's a lot of people like that even whitley streber i've heard him speak before i don't think he does the conferences anymore at least he doesn't do them in las vegas because the casinos don't enforce a no smoking policy or they didn't when i was there But I believe that he believes what he saw.

Yeah, he made a fortune off books and movies and things, but I think he is telling the truth as he knows it about those experiences he has with starting with communion and beyond.

I think that's a good way to put it, that it's the truth as they believe it.

On the drive, I realized that if we took a very small detour, we could stop in a place called Snowflake, Arizona.

So Snowflake is really famous because it's where, back in November 1975, Travis Walton was allegedly abducted by aliens.

So if you've ever seen the movie Fire in the Sky, that is based on the Travis Walton story.

So basically, him and a bunch of loggers were out in the woods logging.

And as they finished up for the day, they came across a UFO.

So that was just so much fun for me.

Honestly, like at the front end of this tour, we got to stop at the Betty and Barney Hill abduction site.

And at the tail end, we got to stop at the Travis Walton site.