Travis Toews

Uh, uh, uh, yeah.

I mean, the question is, like, would Alberta separatists have mobilized without Danielle Smith? In other words, like, if Travis Toews was Premier, uh, Travis Toews was ...

I mean, when you say the front-runner, uh, when Jason Kenney left, when Jason Kenney resigned and the United Conservatives were looking for a new leader, Travis Toews may have been polling as the front-runner, but it wasn't, like, a clear, it wasn't like Notley with the NDP where he goes in and gets something like 86% of the vote, which was wild.

Um, but were it Travis Toews, who's, like, hard-wired.

He's been on the show before.

He's a reasonable guy, Minister of Finance, that sort of a thing.

And of course, she also extended the period in which they could collect signatures.

So she made it easy for them to get their question on the ballot.

Um, but, uh, she also needs corporate Calgary.

I mean, this is her coalition, right? It's the rural religious reactionaries, as I call them in the book, and those are the people who propelled her to the UCP leadership, right? I mean, Travis Toews was corporate Calgary's guy.

And I-

Yeah

I know that there's a, a lot of work I still need to do to, to convince Albertans Canada can work.

Former Finance Minister Travis Toews acknowledged that the turmoil might cause more problems for the UCP down the line.

If we continue to have a fixation and with separation and independence, it will make it very difficult to form government provincially.

Already two constituency riding associations are calling for a review of Smith's leadership, with one board member saying that Smith and the party should have remained neutral.