Trantor

Yeah, that's really cool.

And even Trantor is really cool.

It takes 14 hours to go from the bridge just to the surface, but then everybody underneath the surface and they don't ever leave or see the outside.

Really cool world building stuff.

had to stop

Well, I think the thing, too, about this show, because the visuals are so stunning, I had forgotten, like, really, like, how incredible it is.

And, like, I agree that, like, the first, the scene with the kids outside the vault, and then we kind of go to Synax, which is Gale Dornick's planet, like, and then she has to, like, leave and go to Trantor.

So all that takes a bit, and I could see that being sort of slow as I was watching it back.

Here's something I caught on.

The troll's name is Trantor.

Do you know another place for the name Trantor?

uh no what is it

i don't know how this would even connect to this movie i think it might have just been like they heard in it and someone but anyway that's the name of the uh city that is a planet and isaac asimov's foundation books so it sounds like a troll name it does sound like a troll name so i'm guessing someone had probably read the books forgotten it kind of and just like half-remembered name, because it does make a good troll name as well.

I haven't seen that movie since I was a kid.

Trantor.

And what is used to defeat Trantor? Do you remember? Milk.

At least we got that one.

Meredith, don't give him the point for that.

And Eucanopolis is a world-spanning city, the ultimate extension of the Arcology idea.

Science fiction gives us Trantor, Coruscant, Terra, and countless hive worlds, usually depicted as endless towers, deep levels, crowded transit tunnels, enough bureaucracy to make a black hole form from the paperwork density alone.

But science fiction often gets the numbers hilariously low.

Trantor's 40 billion people sounds huge, until you remember that Earth already has about a fifth of that, and Trantor is described as a planet-wide city built upward and downward.

40 billion people on a full planet is not packed.

It's a neighborhood.

I think the first time I realized this weird, uh, attraction was when I was reading F- Foundation by Isaac Asimov, which is...

A- I'm kind of cheating here because the city is Trantor, but Trantor is a planet too, okay?

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So the capital planet of the, of the federation, th- this, in, of, of the empire, th- this huge planet, this city that covers up an entire, this incredible planet that was later unash- un- unashamedly copied by George Lucas [laughs] with Coruscant in Star Wars, okay? That one.