Traditional climbing

But these one-offs that are just expressions of climbers' mastery over their act, they're just amazing, just amazing things.

And I'm super impressed by them all, by James, by Billy, by... uh honnold all these all these things and adamandra the stuff adamandra does he's like flashing it's he's just like just i did this uh book with jerry and jerry talks about the dominator is 80 plus and yosemite and if you want to know how strong i was in 1988 go and try that and that's how strong i was in 1988 i could do that and that's that's how you'll understand but these things are just beyond comprehension in a way it was super cool to hear from james with all these things and so many amazing efforts of trad climbing uh didn't talk so much about sport climbing but just talked with him and his friends and other people which is really interesting to hear about uh all the stuff about trad one of the things we talk about is what happened to him in masters wall just again utterly jaw-dropping story uh where he gets stuck uh and we tangent it off and didn't quite get to the end of the story i'll just tell you what happened next time because i don't want to spoil the story so yeah uh Oh yeah, I will tell it just in case you don't know.

He got stuck on Mass's wall in what we talk about in Grindy Halt.

What we didn't hear about was when he realised he couldn't go any further, 70 or 80 feet up, with no protection that would stop him hitting the ground, unable to go on.