Torah im Derech Eretz

Sometimes it might be a loud minority, but it's very small.

So I don't-- From my learning and my understanding, Rav Kook was certainly well acquainted with the Rav Hirsch philosophy in Germany of Torah im Derech Eretz, the controversies about Austria.

But I don't get the sense that that was a, a part of Rav Kook that, um...

I, I don't know that was much of his identity or interest.

He's gonna be interested in the Jewish people as a nation, about the development of spirituality and the development of the world.

But the particular Western phenomenon of, like, Torah im Derech Eretz, Torah and, I don't think it's a big issue at that time.

So I, I think it's kind of more of a footnote in this context.

It's important question.

Uh, he also had, uh, some critical views regarding the study of Greek wisdom.

Uh, he certainly was in favor of what would later be called, uh, you know, Torah Im Derech Eretz, uh, uh, in this con- context understood as learning Torah along with a regular livelihood, a regular kind of job, uh, but he was not in favor of studying Greek wisdom for its own sake.

Uh, his death is associated with the Bar Kokhba rebellion of the, uh, the 130s.

Uh, it's not en- entirely clear exactly when he was killed, but he is associated with the so-called 10 martyrs of the state, the Asar Rugan Malchus, uh, the, uh, the great rabbis who were killed in the aftermath of that revolt, and his name is remembered in the, uh, liturgy as well.