Topi Keskinen

We obviously have Richard's man, Tony Yogan.

so I think it's too early to tell because if you just look at last year's squad based on the guys with the most appearances you'll have guys like Mitov, you'll have Keskinen obviously Nicky Devlin played lots then and not this season Graeme Shinney and these are guys who were coming off of winning us a major trophy so I think it would be unfair to really say this year's squad is no better than last obviously we lost people like mid-season, we did lose people like Paul Vara, we did lose Clarkson went as well.

So I think it's kind of hard to say.

Dorrington's another one, obviously.

I do think it's been a positive thing.

I think if you believe that every single penny was only and purely going to go to youth development, I'm not sure that was ever the sales pitch.

And I don't think the idea that, you know, because we are now letting some of our, this past summer, we've let some of our younger players go, by which I mean not necessarily players who've been brought through at Petaudry, but your likes of your Christiansens or your Keskinens.

Again, I don't think that that, to me, makes a difference.