Tony Pope

Yeah, they are.

I mean, it was so last year, the current president of the International Association of Healthcare Security, IAHSS, Tony Pope and Bill Navajar, who's the IAHSS foundation president, came to our conference here in the UK.

um and then invited myself uh and charlotte park our chief operating officer back to their conference in new orleans uh in april which obviously you attended as well and as you say listening to the speakers and the issues that they have over there that they are they run parallel we've traveled similar routes we've come up with similar conclusions we've had similar issues so there is a great overlap and i'm glad to say that um four of them from the IAHSS are attending the NAS conference next month, which is the 17th, 18th of November at the University of Warwick.

And I would urge anyone listening to this conversation to come to the conference.