Tony Oursler

It's a dream, you know, just to be in a place where people care about art.

And another thing that I've been thinking about this conversation with Tony Oursler, because I just spoke to him recently, but he was saying this is one of the few places, one of the few fields where people actually care what you think.

Yeah.

if you're like a banker or a finance guy, people don't care what you, or