there are talented people out there.

There's very, some people have the gift to, you know, run fast or they can memorize.

They, they're basically memorize any passage, anything.

They can comprehend something very quick.

But when you don't capitalize that with, like, some hard work and some discipline, you'll never, you know, reach your goal.

Whereas someone with a good mindset that puts their head down, no matter what adversity, you know, they may have dyslexia, they have to work around that.

So at what point for you... money and started becoming about purpose and meaning?

Okay, I think you're asking a question referring to motivation of doing something.

So I asked, what experiences in your life pushed you into entrepreneurship, leadership development, and of course, health?

Wow, that's a lot of questions right there.

Although, let's do the first thing.

I think you said what shaped me as a leader.

So I think the big thing with that is that Leadership is kind of unique.

You just don't become a leader because you want to be a leader.

It comes through process of you developing yourself.

said, how has failure shaped me? And what did it teach resilience?

What are guys who are, you know, older than 50, what does, you know, stem cell therapy look like? Well, first of all, what's happening in their life that the kinda stuff that you're doing and helping with can help with?

Okay, let's go with the athlete first.

So the athlete, what they're trying to do is have an injury and recover quickly.

So let's say it's off-season, and they have the luxury of doing regenerative medicine.

So when you do regenerative medicine, you're taking tissue.

Let's say they have a, a patellar tendonitis right there in the kneecap, right there on the upper portion of the kneecap.

So because it's avascular, it doesn't heal correctly or fast as what an athlete wants, so you have to speed it up.

How does this type of therapy, you know, is it for all types of injuries, Tommy, and, and pain? Like, d- you know, go through someone, like a very practical, you know, everyday sort of scenario for a guy over 50 where this type of therapy could help them.

So I want to welcome you and take us back to the early days, doctor.

Okay.

Thanks a lot.

Let's go back.

I guess where I started really at UCLA when I was a doctor there and I was fortunate enough to be part of the athletic department where I get to see all the sports.

And that's not just like the typical football, basketball, the classic stuff, but you can involve with unique sports like water polo, golf, tennis, and football, of course, basketball, all that stuff.

But the neat thing about seeing that many sports and their particular injuries, and then, of course, every team has a position and then they have their particular injuries.

And, you know, how did you kind of glean this and then, you know, to become a pioneer in this field?

But before we do all that, can you give us an introduction of who you are to give a bit of synopsis of all the things that you have dabbled in over the years so people can get a clear idea a clear reflection of exactly like your skill set, your skill level and how you've helped so many people before.

All right.

Thank you.

Well, my name is Dr. Tommy Reed.

I guess it all starts for me, of course, as a kid playing sports and understanding that I love sports.

I love physical activity and I love that world.

But I knew I wasn't going to be a professional athlete because I'm not tall.

What would be something that you say to help them be committed and to stay committed on that journey?

Would you say that this top- this topical could be used for, like, neuropathy or, you know, like chronic nerve pain, or is it more of a muscle joint type of thing?

Okay.

So my expertise is musculoskeletal.

Now, there's big research about nerves, about the Schwann cells, right? These adult stem cells that have the ability to kind of like, you know, help the cells move, right? Help the cells, like, form its new, like, myelinated sheaths and this axon and dendrites, so it has the ability.

The problem is, is that the research is still ongoing.

There's, there's, there's some studies that say yes, some studies says no, but we know that the biggest thing you wanna do for neuropathy is you've got to think about the easiest pathway, and that's circulation.

You got to get the circulation to get more blood flow.

[laughs]

Can you talk a little bit about what that was and how that led to the questions and line of inquiry that became Regen?

So throughout this whole process, all the way from UCLA back in 2005 all the way now, you hear about some type of regenerative medicine world.

Either it's, like, these prolotherapies, PRP, stem cell, but they're always delivered through the injection.

It's all about the needle.

Now, the problem is with the needle is that you have a injury, and then you basically take a needle and then you invade the area.

Well, you made a secondary injury site, so you have that problem.

Then you have the risk factors of, like, infection or compromised tissue, but another big thing is that you need downtime.

[laughs]

So when you first went in, was it something you were like, okay, now I'm all in now? Or were you still battling early and then they kind of had to show you what's what?

Okay, so when I first went in, it was like the typical boot camp.

You know, you're going through boot camp, and it's like, it's not a big deal.

I was a Navy, so it wasn't that big of a deal.

I got yelled at at home, so when I go to boot camp, it's no big deal.

You know, they tell you to do this, do that, and you just basically do the same thing you did at home.

Now you're in the barracks.

How did that come about?

they kinda, kinda had to show you what's what?

Okay.

So when I first went in, it was like the typical boot camp.

You know, you're going through boot camp, and it's like, it's not a big deal.

You're going...

I was in the Navy, so it's like, it's, it wasn't that big of a deal.

I got yelled at, at home, so when I go to boot camp, it's no big deal.

How, how did that come about?

I think my brain injury is on display this morning, but we're going to do the best we can.

I've got a lot of those injuries here.

So then PRP was the current, and then you start seeing what the results are, and the theory is interesting.

Then you hear about stem cell therapy.

A particular stem cell is called the mesenchymal stem cell.

They used to draw it out of your own bodies, like the bone marrow or the fat tissue, and then they take it to a centrifuge.

You know, they wind it up and they pull out what they call the mesenchymal stem cells and they inject the damaged area.

So what are some of the biggest misconceptions people have about stem cell therapy in general?

What, what, how does being, excuse me, a team doctor, was the hierarchy on that you know i always wanted to know that like what's the hierarchy between the doctor i know there's a bunch of y'all there but who's how does that work

okay so especially like an nfl world when you go to the nfl even collegiate there's there's a different kind of set of like you know like leadership in that world so let's let's talk about the nfl so the nfl you know it starts off with in some type of ownership then it trickles down to the front office you know general manager and it trickles down to the medical world so we're under the medical side of it so when you look at the medical side there is an athletic training room and the athletic training room is the full-time staff of the athletic trainers and now it's a physical therapist and then they'll have like contracted guys like the orthopedic surgeon, the head medical guy.

So everybody is part of it, but not really part of the team in the sense that you're a full time employee.

You're just a part of the team.

So as it trickles down, you know, then you have the medical side of it.

And then that medical has the orthopedic side of it.

And then like the team doctor that does the basic like the family medicine doctor.

Are you saying exercise is bad for us? Elaborate.