Tom Parker

Mm-hmm.

Published it in The American Spectator, and that day I went to lunch with another attorney and got an email, looked at it on my phone, and it was from an Alabama Supreme Court justice, an associate justice, Justice Tom Parker, and it just said, "Alan, please call me." And I thought, "Okay.

Well, when a justice of a state supreme court tells you to call him, you call him." So I did, and he said, "Alan"...

And we knew each other not, not particularly well, but he, um, he was a family friend, and his, his mother-in-law and my grandmother were sort of like Christian prayer warriors together.

Now, Mike, I'm curious, um, did you have anything to do with its adoption by the Alabama Supreme Court? 'Cause you personally know the, uh, the chief justice, right, down there in Alabama?

Yeah, Tom Parker and I have been friends for a very long time, over 30 years.

We, uh, worked together on issues.

Uh, we, I don't think we've ac- ever actually litigated together when we were, when he was in private practice, but we were friends and we're litigating parallel cases and have been together at conferences, and we've known each other for probably 40 years, uh, since we were both eight, um, uh, or something like that.