Tom Izzo

... and, uh, that's 18 seasons.

And I think he has a great chance if he continues to coach another 20 years, which would make him Izzo's age.

Uh, if he continues to do that, he will retire as the Big Ten's all-time winningest coach, unless Kirk Ferentz is still coaching, uh, at 90, right?

He might be.

Yeah, you know, they see Irv.

He lives here.

He comes back a couple times a year, and he's very, uh, upfront with his love for Michigan State and his support for the program and his relationship with Izzo, and he just had the, the gala here, right, for the YMCA.

And he has the car event when it isn't rained out, and he...

Pat Fitzgerald has 111 career wins now, Connor, and that's 18 seasons.

And I think he has a great chance if he continues to coach another 20 years, which would make him Izzo's age.

If he continues to do that, he will retire as the Big Ten's all-time winningest coach unless...

Kirk Ferentz is still coaching at 90, right? He might be.

Yes, there is.

Tom Izzo.

This is actually his first coaching job after graduating from North Michigan University.

Northern Michigan University?

Is it Northern?

The university as it exists today is called Northern Michigan University.

Let's look up Tom Izzo.

Maybe it changed at some point.

Yes, yeah.

Well, it all kind of takes me back to talking about coaching because not just Tom Izzo, who's legendary, but I was even thinking more since we're on the topic of sports.

How in the world does Duke lose last night, the time we're recording this, when all you had to do was tell your team, hold on to the ball?

And get

Good morning, world.

Those were the voices of Peter Secchia and Tom Izzo, two people who cared an awful lot and still do about Michigan State University, and so does Brianna Scott.

She's the chair of MSU's Board of Trustees.

She's running for re-election.

I was just trying to think back.

I mean, it had to have been while I was at Michigan State as a student covering any of Tom Izzo's basketball teams.

I mean, when I was there was when Cassius Winston was the star.

Miles Bridges was there.

Anyway, so those were my two big professional guys I think I ever talked to, which is kind of funny.

Before you go on, Jake, because I was trying to think of the Lions ones, but Natalie, you can appreciate this.

The very first time Tom Izzo called me, it was in my dorm room.

We were, again, this was students back in the day.

I know.

I mean, shoot, we're, we're doing Tom Izzo's rebounding stuff.

We're Pat Summitt's defense, you know, we're doing all this stuff.

And if it's not working, it's because you guys aren't working.

We have to teach him, you know, what our philosophy is.

But then we have to empower him to then take it upon himself to this is his team.

This isn't Tom Izzo's team.

You know, while we all know, I mean, Tom Izzo is a larger than life figure, but the best teams are this isn't only we're not doing this because Izzo told us to.