Tom Carson

Like you couldn't find, this is in 1995, you couldn't find a negative Rolling Stone review.

So actually I think what prompted it is the Village Voice, Tom Carson, the Village Voice finally did a piece talking about how bad they were.

And I did a piece saying that's like the first, because back then there was no internet.

So you had to go to the library, right? Look back in Time Magazine and Playboy and the New York Times, LA Times, blah, blah, blah.

Yeah.

And he rang me and he said... 'Cause I, I think after Pinot, James' great love is Grenache, and I've been fortunate enough, his acolytes, Tom Grant, uh, Tom Carson.

Yeah.

And the two of them love Rayas and actually there's very, very few 100% Grenaches made in the world.