Tom Barry

But then I went and approached someone.

and I told him I always remember he gave me a copy of Tom Barry's Guerrilla Days in Ireland and told me to read that that's the life that you could be and in my opinion he tried very hard to put me off to the point that I went back to him a couple of times and he kept saying no I'll see you next week I'll see you next week so I went to somebody else because I had this opinion he was I think he sort of was saying to himself we don't really need you therefore he knew me it was more give it a bit of time blah blah blah so But I went back.

So I joined the RA, I would say around April time, 1972, around that time.

What was it like being at, you were at the March, Bloody Sunday?

...

but there were 15 executed that week, so there's, and there's Tom, T- 14 in Dublin, uh, Thomas Kent in Cork-

Yeah

... are, are executed.

in terms of the, the attack by Michael Collins' squad.

Um, and then only, only a, a week later, like you've got Kilmichael, you know, where, where, you know, uh, 18, was it 18, I think, um, auxiliaries were killed.

Tom Barry and-

Tom Barry's, uh, um, uh-

And there were also some soundings being made by December, uh, 1920.

Because remember, you also have the activities of Tom Barry, uh, who was commanding a brigade of the IRA, uh, in Cork.

Mm-hmm.

Uh, the killing of, of 17 auxiliaries, uh, the Kilmichael Ambush-