Todd Pletcher

But I'm going for him.

And how about some sass master in here? Massive step up in class for him, for trainer Todd Pletcher.

But this is a horse, a curling colt, who's always trained in the morning like a really good horse.

I think he could step forward in a big way.

He was far back in the Smarty Jones last time, and I'm not sure that I even like that race as a prep for this.

We move to the nine, Sass Master for Todd Pletcher.

We take a look at the most recent effort on the 1st of August out at Saratoga.

It was a first level allowance.

So it feels like it was at least a decent group that he beat.

This is a step up in class.

I wish Todd Pletcher had some better statistics taking Lasix off of these kinds of races.

But, uh, if he's around 10 to 1, I think there are worse shots to take a pr- to, worse prices to take a shot with in this race

OK, I was going to say, not everyone goes for the food, but they have good fried food.

You spent several years working for Hall of Fame trainer Todd Pletcher.

What was that experience like for you? And what did you learn from him? I actually spent 25 years working for him.

25 years? 25, almost to the day.

welcome back to the boundless podcast i'm your host dr farron peterson joined today by bob duncan at the national horse racing museum and hall of fame in saratoga bob duncan is one of the most influential horsemen you've probably ever heard of over a career spanning more than 50 years with the new york racing association He transformed the way racehorses are introduced to the starting gate, replacing fear and force with trust and communication.

His methods have influenced horsemen around the world, including Todd Pletcher, Aiden O'Brien, and Gay Waterhouse.

And in 2025, he was honored with a Special Eclipse Award for Career Excellence.

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The worst riders wind up being the ones that are pounding on them, I think.

That's the way I feel about it.

You worked for Todd Pletcher at Payson Park for over 20 years.

I

I think the two that are likely to attract the most support on the tote board are are arguably the two most impressive two-year-old Phillies we saw at this meet.

Summer Starlet, an off-the-pace winner for Steve Asmussen, and life-changing, a speedy winner for Todd Pletcher.

There are a few Phillies in this race who have been very impressive already.

The two and the eight, they have the figures along with the six who's already a stakes winner.

Yeah

... you're, you're looking at the program, you see Chad Brown, you see Todd Pletcher.

White Line.

You see Brad Cox.

And he says he's getting better and he's peaking.

And that doesn't sound like Todd Pletcher.

When Todd Pletcher talks like that.

So what I'm saying is Renegade barely got ready for five weeks.

Remember with the Heiser rules, some of the therapeutic medications that help these horses go out and train and go out and get ready in a two week turnaround, you can't do anything.

very exciting horse

i mean he could not have looked better in the woody stevens where he got that gaudy uh gaudy 115 buyer number but you know what i'm gonna try to beat him because i think this is going to be local knowledges day um outside of that one crazy buyer uh the englishman has been in the 90s um and uh so is the the one buyer an outlier or uh not we'll find out But it's not that I don't like the Englishman, but I'm just trying to get a little value here.

And I love the way Todd Pletcher has brought this horse up to the race.

It, it really is.

You look at the top trainers, Todd Pletcher, Bill Mott, Mark Casse.

Mark Casse's a two-time Hall of Famer.

He's a Hall of Famer in Canada and the United States.