Todd Levin

But in order to get them there, you have to be a little bit hyperbolic and a little bit outrageous.

So we still aren't going as far as Piers Morgan and Todd Levin are with our thumbnails, but I'm also relieved in that we're not alone in feeling this way.

Okay,

now it's time for our interview with Hudson Matter, who launched his own company, Next Wave Media, in 2024.

Uh, a- and, you know, this is...

I just covered, uh, Rattlers with Todd Levin now, and, um, the film that's just SSSSS, seven S's in a row, with, with Richard.

Did those earlier this year.

Those are two kinda different snake movies as well.