... never ask you to do that, but man, when you can get a get off like that, how easy is that finishing that into a sack?

Yeah, I think you talk to any really, uh, incredible pass rusher, and they're gonna tell you it's all, 90% of it's get off and getting off the rock.

And you have to think, you have a 315-plus pound guy going backwards, and if I can get a head start by as, as, as much as I possibly can to be able to move forwards at him at full speed, it makes his job all that much more tough.

Um, especially when you have a running back that's trying to chip out of the backfield.

If you can affect the timing any way possible.

Um, on that one, just had a really good get off and had the momentum of him going upfield and, um, was able to put the foot in the ground and counter back up underneath and, um, finish the play.

Um, but obviously credit to the back end for making him hold onto the ball.

What does that record feel like?

How do you guys go about preparing young offensive linemen that need to get up to speed?

I think it's a cool opportunity on the both sides, but obviously for us, we provide so many different things.

I mean, each of us have different skill sets, but I think the constant is that we treat practice like games and we play hard.

We practice hard and we're constantly trying to find ways to get better and create new moves.

I mean, Alex, you see the spin move.

Herb's got really good finesse.

Jack's got a really good two-step right now, whatever the fuck you call it.

just?

Take me back to kind of that time and what's going through your head.

yeah so um my freshman year at wisconsin was great i was a tight end i was scout team um i had like scout team player of the week a lot like it was we had a lot of fun i enjoyed it and i thought it was important for me to go up against other 20 22 year old grown men in football and i thought it was important for me to redshirt that year and um get my confidence.

And then like December came around and bowl prep.

You do a lot of inner league stuff where it's against your own guys and we're doing like a drill and I dislocated my kneecap and it was just one of those things where it swelled up at the time and they just said, just let it rest and you can come back in the spring and you'll be fine.

Came back in the spring and like the second or third practice it happened to my left knee.

So it was like, okay, Well, I rehabbed my right.

It worked.

What was

Yeah.

Just to continue to help improve people around me and try to be a, a, infectious in the po- in the most positive way possible.

And, um, like Alex was saying, play our best football as the season goes on and trying to find ways to continue to stay healthy and fresh down the road.

Um, I haven't won a freaking playoff game in my whole career.

Mm-hmm.

Um, when he was...

He had a great interview with him coming out of college, and, uh, it just really stuck with him, and he said he made it a point to go back and watch the first play of his career.

And he didn't have the, the tape, but he explained how it was balls to the wall hustling to the football, his first play.

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Yeah.

Just to continue to help improve people around me and try to be a, a, infectious in the po- in the most positive way possible.

And, um, like Alex was saying, play our best football as the season goes on, and trying to find ways to continue to stay healthy and fresh down the road.

Um, I haven't won a freaking playoff game in my whole career.

Mm-hmm.

Um, when he was...

He had a great interview with him coming out of college, and, uh, it just really stuck with him.

And he said he made it a point to go back and watch the first play of his career, and he didn't have the, the tape, but he explained how it was balls to the wall hustle into the football, his first play.

Exactly.

Um, yeah, I mean, I'm just trying to be as versatile as possible and, uh, I think it's a lot easier said than done, and I've been stubborn to it for a long time.

Um, but this scheme doesn't allow me to only go to the left and just fall back on what I know best.

And, uh, sometimes it feels awkward, uh, but the more that I do it, the more reps that I do it, the more they make me, uh, get in those uncomfortable positions on the football field, uh, the better that I'm gonna get at it and, uh, keep the offense off edge.

Mm.

Um, it's tough 'cause I never wanna waste a rush, you know? Like, if I'm on the right side and I have a bad rush, I'm like, "Damn, if I was on the left side there, I would've had a sack," you know? So it's hard to adapt.

Um, but as I get older, as we try to affect the offenses as a whole, um, you have to grow.

And the only way to grow is to, to continue to listen to where you can get better.