Pocket forest

What we're actually looking at doing to see if we can use those trees for root stocks and then graft what we would call our cultivars in the trade onto some of those root stocks so we can then speed up the production of these trees, so we can then build this stopgap of about 20 to 30 years until we can then build in these more resilient species into trade.

As we've talked about, in Australia, we're very much enamored of the Miyawaki Forest where young people have been involved with planting their own trees and obviously learning what positive things you can do in these climate-worrying situations.

Are you doing Miyawaki as well?

We're not doing Miyawaki here at Kew, no, but there is three Miyawaki forests within London.

They've been planted in the same process as you guys and using volunteers and young children.

So it is something that's growing, and we do have those three forests in the UK that have been planted.

We won't ever be able to adapt.

Really, when we look at climate change now, it's about adaptation.

We're not doing Miyawaki here at Kew.

No, but there is three Miyawaki forests within London that have been planted in the same process as you guys and using volunteers and young children.

So it is something that's growing and we do have those three forests in the UK that have been planted.

And of course, there's no question it really lifts the spirit of the young people being able to do something positive about a real problem.