Tinashe

And then I'm so happy this is getting its love.

Well, I mean, the obvious, I'm so happy that this is getting its love is Tinashe as pop star.

I've been loving Tinashe for, you know, 12, 13 years at this point.

And she has consistently been here making really worthy pop music that just like is not or has not been getting attention.

And much like the Brat experience, which like we all went on a couple years ago, it's like uh pop star doesn't feel like a radical departure necessarily from what she's been doing before i mean maybe it's the it's it's a great iteration of it she's refined her craft she's gotten better at what she does she's clearer eyed she's smarter she's more precise um but you know i hope that that album and people loving that can be a portal to go back because if you like it's like what i was saying during all of that somewhere i was like if you like this like Go listen to Number One Angel.

Go listen to How I'm Feeling Now.

You're going to like her other stuff too.

I'm so excited to see Tinashe getting this moment in the spotlight.

Yep.

Which is Popstar by Tinashe because there are a couple of runway songs on here.

I

thought there are.

25.8.

So Tinashe, you know, what's funny is I've known her name forever.

Didn't really know.

She was kind of just on the periphery for me.

So...

You know what, your conversation with Tinashe on the PopPod was so fascinating to hear how you both talked about pop and genre definitions and like how it all works.

And I think that relates so much to this as well, where it's just like,

Yeah, it's exactly this.

I'm going to do like a video kind of synthesizing what artists have said about that throughout this year of speaking to them, because there's been quite a theme that's come up with Raven-Lenae, Tinashe and Rachel Chinneriri as well, talking about it.

Because I think people think like, why does it matter what genre you are? We're kind of in like a genre-less system, but it's actually not the truth when it comes to placement on Spotify playlists and when it comes to the Grammys and stuff like that yeah so I think that it's like an important conversation and I think what Rachel Chinneriri says about it in particular is really smart about the playlisting of it and how it affects like how actual R&B artists can compete in the right places you should go back and listen to it but I'll do a video not you personally but like anyone listening to this should listen to what she says about it i think it's like 10 minutes into the conversation it's very like intelligent take on it i think um and you're right it does like play into this a lot let's move back to the main categories song of the year as i said at the top of the pod this is different to record of the year because it recognizes the songwriting however I feel like we're moving a little further away from it as the years go on.

And the fact that, like, I don't think Taylor Swift has ever won this before.