And I'd love for you to share what that experience was like.

Yeah, so, you know, getting through chiropractic school, I was so fortunate, very, very blessed to have had a teacher, Dr. Hugo Gibson, that was my mentor and my teacher.

He became a very close friend of mine.

He, I was introduced to him on my very first year of chiropractic school, my very first technique.

They called it full spine merica.

Some people call it toggle.

But he, Dr. Gibson was amazing.

And before we get into that, I'd really love to take it back to what you learned in that coaching conference or coaching group that really changed your practice? What was it that they were doing different that you weren't already doing?