Tim Wilson

So if he's taken offence to it, well, I'm sorry for that.

But in the interview with Kieran Gilbert, Pauline Hanson also quite bizarrely blamed James Patterson and Liberal politician Tim Wilson for the fact that these podcast comments were released.

Now, the Indigenous remarks were made last September, the ones about Albanese's mother just earlier this year.

But Kieran Gilbert...

It seems he knew who told his colleague about Hanson's comments about Indigenous Australians and Kieran told Pauline that it wasn't James Patterson or Tim Wilson.

Have a look.

I tell you what, I wish that Tim Wilson and James Patterson would actually listen to me and stop this infighting.

I think they're dragging this out.

Tim Wilson, mate, shadow treasurer, Liberal Party.

Mate, absolute pleasure having you on the Scouting Australia podcast, mate.

Well, thank you.

Rising expenses for utilities and supply costs were identified as the biggest concern with one in three saying they're considering closing in the past year.

Opposition Treasurer Tim Wilson says the challenges facing small businesses are a result of the government's tax reforms.

Nearly 40% of Australian small businesses are paying themselves $40,000 to nothing every year in wages.

We have 40,000 Australian small business owners who are at risk of being pushed below the poverty line under the Albanese government because they cannot kick their spending addiction and they continue to increase taxes specifically hitting and targeting small business.

I think a very committed liberal who cares about liberalism as an idea.

You could put Tim Wilson into that category as well.

When Andrew Hastie quotes Hayek, he does so to distance himself from Hayek, to say the Liberal Party needs to move away from Hayek.

This is one of the great neoliberal philosophers.

This goes to Chip's point, like it's the vibe as opposed to the absolute detail.

But a, like Tim Wilson think, who's thinking I will be the next treasurer does have to think about that.

He has to think about, say, what's going on in the US bond market? What's going on in the Australian bond market? Barnaby Joyce tells Sarah Ferguson, "I'm not Jesus Christ." Okay, that's, that wasn't the question, Barnaby, but that, that's the get out of jail free card.

So that's part of it.