Tim Houlihan

You're like, I'd love to talk about this even more.

And you co-host the Behavioral Grooves podcast.

So tell me a little bit about that and what sparked the start of that podcast.

So we started back in 2018, 2017, 2018.

And it wasn't even started as a podcast.

So as my co-host, Tim Houlihan, who I've known for years, he worked at a company I did a lot of work with.

We partnered up on there and he was doing some behavioral cool stuff with some cool researchers.

And so he left that and he's starting on his own.