Tim Groser

Personally, I'm not a great fan of people going straight into, uh, cabinet, um, and it's only really happened in the last term.

We've had a few people like Tim Groser.

Even Tim Groser, who was a world trade, um, the commissioner of, um...

And he came in, he didn't go straight into c- cabinet.

The only one probably went straight into cabinet was Steven Joyce, who'd been very closely associated.

And, and I think also, you know, New Zealanders understand that we do play a role in the world and we do have a good reputation, and we should look after that.

But the other thing that's interesting too is that the programs that National are targeting i- in, in their p- potential 10% cut of aid are the ones that John Key and Tim Groser introduced in the last National Government, and very proudly so, and these were under something called the, the Greenhouse, New Zealand Greenhouse Gases ...

I can't remember the exact name of it.

Global Research Al- Alliance.

We cut out some of the foreign aid, some of the cream that Winston's got, and we fund cancer drugs here in New Zealand.

Well, all Winston said is that he inherited a set of commitments that John Key and Tim Groser had signed New Zealand up to in order for these other countries to enable New Zealand to make, um, forward movement in other areas.

He, I'm sure he's been phasing them out.

He didn't initiate them.

We cut out some of the foreign aid, some of the cream that Winston's got, and we fund cancer drugs here in New Zealand.

Well, all Winston said is that he inherited a set of commitments that John Key and Tim Groser had signed New Zealand up to in order for these other countries to enable New Zealand to make, um, forward movement in other areas.

He, I'm sure he's been phasing them out.

He didn't initiate them.